Jennings Lodge Trees still Threatened!

Some of the oldest and tallest trees in Jennings Lodge may soon come down in a rather extensive logging operation if the latest 62 Lot development proposal by Lennar Corp succeeds. Jennings Lodge, Happy Valley citizens lose development appeals

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I just re-read the tree inventory from the preliminary plans. 77% of the 423 trees, or 326 total, are to be axed. 52% of the trees on the 16.7 acre site are Douglas fir (222 in total), and over 180 are slated to be removed for “improvements”- basically, 85% of the Douglas fir overstory, and all of the very largest mature and old growth ones, with the 45 to 62 inch diameters will be cut! Interestingly, of the total tree census, only 3 out of the 423 trees were deemed a real hazard, another 36 considered “unhealthy” making a grand total of about 9% of the forest arguably unsafe. The height of these massive firs hasn’t been discussed much, but most of them  range from 100 to 150 feet, with some really tall ones in the 160 to 180 ft range. I checked my measurements in 2 different survey methods on google earth:

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Most of the 222 Doug fir are from about 20 to 40 inches in diameter, but about 40 of them are very large mature and potentially Old Growth trees that range from 45 to 62 inches (3.8 to 5.2 feet) Diameter at DBH, making them probably between 125 and 200 years old by my estimates.  Also included in the list is a 61 inch Diameter Redwood. The realization that these are mostly healthy trees has already been computed by timber cruisers, suggesting 860,000 board feet and $500,000 in timber value– for the Douglas fir trees alone:

189 standing Douglas firs that could conservatively yield over 860,000 board feet of lumber or enough to frame 54 2,400-square-foot houses, with the logs delivered to mill having a current market value of around $500,000.Lennar proposal disappoints Jennings Lodge

The loss of so many large trees was even seen as a “misguided request” by one tree removal company reportedly asked to bid on cutting down the trees at the propety:

“At least one large, well respected, tree-removal company asked to bid on cutting down all the trees from the campground property refused the job and walked away saying they wouldn’t have anything to do with what was clearly a misguided request.History should inform Jennings Lodge development

Some of the larger examples of trees are listed below by DBH (diameter) and species:

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Jennings Lodge Estate – Prelminary Plans.

The Jennings Lodge Evangelical center had been a campsite for church groups for 105 years. Local neighbors have reported seeing all manner of birds and animals;  Pileated woodpeckers, Bald Eagles have been seen in the trees,  and deer have even been known to occasionally frequent the area. Being part of the Willamette river watershed, I believe a substantial number of birds and wildlife depend on the site, being so close to the river. The site would make an ideal park, given the large size of nearly 17 acres, grass meadows, and tree groves.

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Stands of Tall Douglas fir – Oct. 2014 Photo by Friends of Jennings Lodge

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Nov. 2015 Photo by Friends of Jennings Lodge

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Large Douglas fir. Nov. 2015 Photo by Friends of Jennings Lodge

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Large mossy Deciduous tree. Nov. 2015 Photo by Friends of Jennings Lodge

Last year the Portland Audubon Society was even looking at the site as a potential wild life care center, “The Audubon folks were excited about all the trees, the idea of repurposing the current buildings rather than tearing them down, and sharing the site with a park.Jennings Lodge neighbors prepare for hearing on proposed 72-lot subdivision

For More info, and how to help please visit: Friends of Jennings Lodge

Important 5 hour audio of public testimony from the Oct. 1, 2015 Clackamas County Land Use hearing regarding the Jennings Lodge proposed development: Audio 1 & Audio 3

 

 

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Measuring Tree height in Google Earth. 3D canopy, and Street view.

Turn on Google Earth’s 3D Buildings Icon. Create a polygon filter and adjust at desired altitude to filter height and find tallest tree. Google 3D renderings are photo realistic, and tend to be better than 95% accurate on flat land.

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Jennings Lodge trees

Accurately measuring trees on slopes and steep terrain is much more difficult. In this instance, subtracting crown height from base Google DEM terrain (non 3D mode) elevation will give a good proxy of height, yet DEM data itself can be inaccurate by as much as 50 – 100 feet. 3D Mode has finer and more exact elevation data. It is also worthy to consult other elevation databases to ensure accurate elevation at the base of the tree.

To Measure trees in Google Street view first select the desired location of the tree’s trunk, or directly under where the tree’s highest point is.  Add a placemark at this location, then turn on the Google Street View mode. While in Street view mode, adjust the height of the placemark until it aligns with the top of the tree’s crown. This method is even more accurate than the 3D mode, as the 3D polygons some times do not render the top 5 or 10 feet or more in slender trees, steeples, etc:

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My post at Google’s forum: https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/gec-open-forum/rsf8Ul4NPGo

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Portland used to have 300 foot tall Douglas fir!

Some Douglas fir trees reported up to nearly 300 feet tall, and 6 to 8-1/2 feet diameter once grew on the south slope of Mt Scott, Portland in 1912. Oregonian archives: The Sunday Oregonian. (Portland, Ore.) 1881-current, May 26, 1912, Image 13

The Sunday Oregonian. (Portland, Ore.) 1881-current, May 26, 1912, Image 13

The Sunday Oregonian. (Portland, Ore.) 1881-current, May 26, 1912, Image 13

The Sunday Oregonian. Portland, Ore. May 26, 1912, pg 13

The Sunday Oregonian. Portland, Ore. May 26, 1912, pg 13

The Antone Sechtem ranch was located in Happy Valley, sheltered between Mt Scott and Talbert Mountain, segmented by Sunnyside road, and was within a couple hundred yards of Mt. Scott Creek. A great sheltered valley for big trees. Very Large Cedar trees also once grew in this valley.

300 feet is about as tall as Portland’s newly built South Waterfront Apartments , and about twice the size of the tallest fir trees growing around most of inner Portland nowadays. Powell Butte & Forest Park do have some Doug firs over 200 feet (the tallest are 230 to 250 feet high in Macleay Park), and there are amazingly still some huge fir trees up to nearly 300 feet tall and 6 to 8.3 feet diameter at Oxbow Park, Gresham- 15 miles east of Portland- the tallest trees in the Metro. Lewis and Clark recorded in their journals a 318 feet tall fir tree, only 3.5 to 4 feet in diameter (pencil thin!) at the upper reaches of “Quicksand river” in 1806, around the present day Sandy River Delta Park, in Gresham.

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Oxbow Park still has some Douglas fir nearly 300 feet tall! Photo by Darvel Lloyd, Nov. 2015

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Huge Douglas fir, Oxbow Park – 8f.3 ft diameter, 280 ft tall. Photo by Darvel Lloyd, Nov. 2015

The 1852  survey map of the Portland basin shows evidence of a once great forest of Douglas fir, Hemlock, and Maple trees. A series of fires between 1825 and 1845 burnt much of this vast forest so that Portland had great open meadows with burnt and fallen timber along most of thecentral basin and east side, with swamps and marshland extending  from Powell blvd. southward down through Crystal springs, and Johnson creek.

However, large groves of old growth trees remained east of 82nd ave, near Rocky Butte, down to Mt Scott and Happy Valley.

The Honorable Andrew J. Dufur, (whose son later formed the town of Dufur, east of Mt. Hood) is quoted in an 1876 agriculture report that he had cut down a Douglas fir 321 feet in length and 6 feet 4 inches diameter, 30 feet from the ground. It can be assumed that this tree was removed by Mr. Dufur on his residence of East Portland, near the Columbia river, north-east of Rocky Butte, where he cleared his land of the tall timber, built his own cabin, and started farming along the Columbia slough between 1859 and 1872, in the present Parkrose neighborhood.

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Report of the Commissioner of Agriculture for the Year 1876 – pg 181.

Another great Douglas fir 330 feet tall was removed by W. F. Tracy, on his property north of Portland, in Camas, Washington along the Lacamas headwaters.

The Vancouver independent. (Vancouver, W.T. [Wash.]) May 06, 1880, pg 5

The Vancouver independent. (Vancouver, W.T. [Wash.]) May 06, 1880, pg 5

A 300 foot tall Douglas fir was also felled on the Ezra fisher land claim, east of present day Oregon City.

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The Quarterly for the Oregon Historical Society, 1916. pg 297.

Then there is this amusing report of a boy free climbing a 260 foot Douglas fir out in Beaverton, Oregon in 1894!

 

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Hillsboro independent. September 14, 1894 Pg 3

Accounts of fir and Cedar trees 350 to 400 feet tall, and 18 to 20 feet in diameter were even reported in some early newspapers – trees along Kalama, Washington, and a grove of enormous fir and cedars estimated at over 350 feet high and 20 feet diameter near Latourell, Oregon and the Hood river, north of Mt. Hood.

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The Corvallis gazette. July 04, 1890 Image 1

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Sangamo Journal – Illinois State Journal, 20 May 1847 pg 1.

The Cook County herald. (Grand Marais, Minn.) December 08, 1900, Image 1

The Cook County herald. (Grand Marais, Minn.) December 08, 1900, Image 1.

Portland too, may well have had some of these exceptional trees even higher than 300 – 325 feet, as occasional giants were encountered by pioneers settling the land around Seattle and Vancouver British Columbia over a century ago, sometimes 350 – 400 ft tall. (See my post on Tallest Douglas Fir, and claims of a 465-footer along the Nooksack river, Whatcom Wash. in 1896, and 415-footer north of Vancouver in 1902).

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Tallest Trees in Eastmoreland could be cut down ; Three 150 foot Sequoias

3 Historic Giant Sequoia Trees said to be 158  years old, up to 150+ feet tall, & 7 feet diameter could be cut down in Eastmoreland, S.E. Portland! – by MJ Ewers, 6-28-15.

Official flier to save the giants, from: https://www.facebook.com/PortlandRedwoods?fref=ts

Official flier to save the giants, from: Save the Portland Redwoods – Facebook page

These are the tallest trees in Eastmoreland, and possibly among the oldest. (based on my Google Earth canopy height survey project). I measured the foremost of the 3 giants, at 153- 154 ft with inclinometer from 4 different angles on June 24th. This confirms, and exceeds the Google Earth 3D model of 147 -150 ft. They are approx. 58 – 60 feet in spread, and range from 78 to 83 inches DBH, diameter. (Update: Darvel Lloyd and I measured the circumference of the tallest and largest Sequoia at about 23 -1/2  feet on 6/28/15 — giving an average diameter of 7 ft 6 inches at 4.5 feet above ground).  No trees in Eastmoreland match or exceed 150 feet, based on my survey. You have to go out 1 to 2 miles radius to find taller trees than this in South East Portland. See Map below:

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The tallest of these 3 Giant Sequoias may well be taller than any other tree in S.E. Portland for nearly a mile radius. Taller than any other trees in Eastmoreland proper, Woodstock Park, or the grove of Douglas firs at the Apostolic Campgrounds in Brentwood-Darlington, You don’t see trees higher than 150 feet except for one or two at Crystal Springs Rhododendron Garden,a few at Kenilworth Park, Mt Scott Park, and Sellwood Park has some firs up to 175+ ft — about 1 to 2 miles away.

Losing some of the tallest trees of inner S.E. Portland would be unfortunate. I figure, that if each of these trees is from 6-1/2 to 7-1/2 ft diameter, range from 140 – 154 feet tall, then they contain about 1,300 to 2,200 cubic feet of biomass in the trunks alone (volume of a cone). You would need a stand of about 15 – 20 big Douglas firs, 120 feet tall and 3 ft diameter each to equal the same amount of biomass as these 3 Sequoias!

  • Neighbors have raised $50,000 to protect the giant trees, but this only delays their harvest by a week! Neighbors and citizens are trying to raise an additional $900,000 to to puchase the property from the developer and possibly turn it into a small park or green space.
  • A Go Fund Me page was created to try and raise enough funds through donations to help save the Giant trees:  http://www.gofundme.com/SaveTheGiants

The Official Facebook page: Save the Portland Redwoods

And WordPress Page: Save the Portland Redwoods



  • My interest in saving these trees: Having been a resident of South East Portland all my life, I had always been impressed with these 3 massive Sequoias which loom high above the Eastmoreland urban canopy. Taking the Bus line 19 up Woodstock hill, these three “wise men” jut out of the Eastmoreland neighborhood with majesty, perched atop Martins street, overlooking the neighborhood — ancient Goliath sentinels, always on guard… to be poetic. I first became aware in 2013- 2014 that these were the tallest trees in the Eastmoreland Neighborhood, while perusing Google Earth’s 3D mode, attempting to find the tallest trees in Portland. (See project on portland’s urban canopy): PDX TREES – Some Notable & Tallest Trees of Portland, Oregon Metro
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My initial estimate placed these trees at 138 to 147 feet high, based on Google Earth 3D, subtracting the tops, 323 ft, from the DEM ground elevation of 176 ft. However, measuring the tallest of these 3 in person with inclinometer on 6/24/15, indicates they are slightly taller– the tallest approx. 153 ft.

There are dozens of similar old Giant Sequoias sprinkled throughout the Portland metro area– Seven of them are listed as Heritage trees: Heritage Trees of Portland- Sequoiadendron giganteum

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156 ft + Sequoia at Lownsdale Square.

There are a similar number of giant Sequoias not yet nominated as Heritage trees: A 156+ foot tall Sequoia at Lownsdale Park, in front of the Multnomah County Court House, and a 164 ft tall Sequoia at the 2700 Block of S.E. Harrison, in Milwaukie , near the Crystal Lake Apartments.

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164 foot Sequoia, S.E. Harrison Street, Milwaukie, Ore.

Harrison St Sequoia, Milwaukie, Ore.

Harrison St Sequoia, Milwaukie, Ore. Subtracting polygon tree ht of 239 ft, from DEM elevation, 75 ft = 164 ft.

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Giantology, the Last 100 years.

-Giantology, the Last 100 years. A modern resurgence – Comments by  M.J. Ewers, June 2015. (List updated periodically):
  • c. 1800-1950 Newspaper + Smithsonian Ethnology reports of giants & lost races, mound builders etc (the primary source material of a century later) — what some fondly refer to as the period of “the giant craze.” I’d say the whole Victorian era can be summarized as the epicenter of this so called “giant craze”, with the Smithsonian opening the mounds, farmers clearing their fields and press accounts almost every other day announcing a new “giant” find.
  • 1868, Edward J Wood, “Giants and Dwarfs” lists many historic giants.
  • 1894-98 – Dictionary of Phrase and Fable – By Ebenezer Cobham Brewer, “Giants of Real Life” lists historic Giants by name and “reputed” stature.
  • 1900 -Anomalies and curiosities of medicine, By George Milbry Gould – lists Historic “Giants”
  • 1880-1930 Helena Blavatsky’s “The Secret Doctrine”, Theosophists, occultists, as well as Masons, and Rosicrucians (“The New Age Magazine”) compile press accounts of giant skeleton discoveries in their bulletins and publications, as further evidence for their causes.
  • c.1812-to present. Mormons also compile Giant skeleton, Mound builder accounts around this time period, as evidence of the “Nephites” & “Jaredites”. (See Solomon Spaulding’s 1812 novel, “Manuscrtipt Found” & Conneaut Giants, in David B. Owen’s book “Conneaut”, 2010, also see modern Mormon interest in Giants & Moundbuilders with Wayne May’s Ancient American Magazine 1993 to present.)
  • c. 1890-1900 George Sheldon, of Mass. Compiles contemporary newspapers accounts of giant skeleton finds, c. 1900 pasted in his scrap book. Personal scrap book Viewed by Jim Vieira in 2012.
  • 1920-1940’s John T Reed, Lovelock Nevada, compiles scores of contemporary newspaper clippings  of Giant skeleton finds stapled together in his personal files, archaeological finds, and other research. His personal diaries, journals, interviews with local Indians, anthropological and scientific theories of the Red Headed giants,  and many other topics comprise  a collection of some 90 cubic feet at the Nevada Historical Society as of my viewing in May 2014.
  • 1922, Henry Wysham Lanier, “A Book of Giants: Tales of Very Tall Men of Myth, Legends…” Lists many historic giants.
  • 1930 ,  C. J. S. Thompson, “The Mystery and Lore of Monsters” – lists many historic giants.
  • 1935-1950 Gigantopithecus, Meganthropus, Weidenreich, Von Koenigswald-Apes, Giants and Man-1946 by Weidenreich.
  • 1945, Mysteries of Ancient South America – Harold T Wilkins, lists giant skeletons reports.
  • 1950’s-60’s-modern Bigfoot era born, John Green, Dahinden, Patterson& Gimlin, Krantz & others.
  • 1959, Frank Edwards “Stranger Than Science” lists giant skeleton finds.
  • 1961 Ivan T Sanderson, “Abominable Snowmen: Legend Come to Life”, mentions giant skeletons, and stories of Smithsonian & other institutions collecting them and then disappearing. Compiled lists and correspondence with those who claimed to have knowledge of bones, but was never able to track down a single bone or skeleton.
  • 1968 – Chariots of the Gods, Von Daniken, ancient alien + Giants, theory hatched.
  • 1970 to present. Rex Gilroy, naturalist, cryptozoologist, and mystery writer of Bathurst, N.S.W, Australia, and “Father of the Yowie”, compiled reports of giants, 3,000 Yowie sightings, wild man and and giants in oral histories of the Aborigines, and investigated fossil and contemporary purported evidence & footprints of giants. His 2001 book, Giants From The Dreamtime: The Yowie In Myth And Reality.
  • 1970 Giant: the pictorial history of the human colossus, by Polly Jae Lee.
  • 1970-74, “Not of this World” & “Timeless Earth”  by Peter Kolosimo mention giant skeleton finds.
  • 1972 Robert Charroux, “The mysteries Unknown” list giant skeleton finds.
  • 1976 Zecharia Sitchin, 12th palnet, Nephilim/ Anunnaki alien theory
  • 1978, Brad Steiger “Worlds Before our own” Giant skeletal accounts
  • 1978, Jim Brandon’s “Weird America” lists giant skeleton finds.
  • 1979, Joseph R Jochmans, “Strange Relics from the Depths of the Earth” pub. by Bible-Science Assoc., lists reputed giant skeleton accounts.
  • 1979, Roy Norvill, “Giants: The Vanished Race of Mighty Men” lists many giant skeleton accounts.
  • 1980’s-90 Carl Baugh, Paluxy “man” tracks, Texas, Creation evidence+ giant humans and giant animal theories put forward.
  • 1986 I.D.E Thomas, Noah Hutchings, Omega conspiracy, Nephilim /alien connection & theories put forward etc
  • 1986 to present-David H Childress’ ” Smithsoniangate” for Nexus magazine and Far Out Aventures LLC. 1989-1993. & and his many books of the “Lost Cities Series”,1986-2000’s which include many giant skeleton reports from N. America and abroad– and forged the beginning of the 20+ year Smithsonian conspiracy theory phase.
  • 1993 Forbidden Archaeology, Michael Cremo, Richard Thompson. Assert massive cover-ups of archaeological finds in the last century, in a massive 900 page work.
  • 1993-to present. Ancient American Magazine, by Wayne May, with guest writers Frank Joseph, David Cain, E.Z. Tinkler, & others write periodicals on giants, giant skeleton finds, lost civilizations in America etc.
  • 1995 Charles DeLoach’s “Giants: A Reference Guide from History, the Bible, and Recorded Legend” an encyclopedic volume. Very comprehensive book, listing historic and legendary giants.
  • 1996-1997 Chuck Missler’s articles, “Return of the Aliens? As The Days of Noah Were”, “And Also After That’: The Return of the Nephilim?” , & “Mischievous Angels or Sethites?” – Koinonia House.
  • 1998 Notes on the Nephilim: The Giants of Old, James Montgomery Boice, Baker Books, Copyright 1998. Excerpt from Lambert Dolphin’s website.
  • 1999 Nephilim: The Truth is Here, by LA Marzulli
  • 2000-Jim Marrs, “Ruled by Secrey”
  • 2000 TLC Documentary “Giants, Mystery and the Myth”- interviews Brad Steiger, David Childress, Jim Marrs & etc, discuss mound giants+Lovelock cave, and the Smithsonian conspiracy theory.
  • 2000 Brad Steiger on Coast to Coast radio, talks Giant skeletons, compiled 10 pages of giant skeleton reports.
  • 2000-2001 Ross Hamilton, Patricia Mason, & Native American scholar Vine Deloria Jr research giants. Great Serpent mound, Holocaust of the Giants: the Great Smithsonian cover-up, and A tradition of Giants. They compile 400-500 items related to giants.
  • 2000-2007 Kent Hovind & Carl Baugh lectures on giants, pref-lood conditions, Garden of Eden Series, Creation ministries.
  • 2000-2001 Mason Winfield, “MONSTERS from the Mound” giant finds in NY state. (Also See Brad Lockwood’s 2010 book regarding NY giants)
  • 2001- The Goliath Conspiracy, Philip L. Rife
  • 2000-2001+, Xpeditions Magazine by Jerry Wills, online magazine posted articles of giant skeletons & Lost Civilizations from Ancient American Magazine, as well as their own investigations.
  • 2000-2007, The First Fossil Hunters & Fossil Legends of the First Americans series by Adrienne Mayor. Deals with the theory that ancient fossils were mistaken for giants/monsters.
  • 2002 – Steve Quayle’s opus work “Genesis 6 Giants”, & other books. Airs his “Q-files” radio show, and appears on a total of 85 Coast to Coast radio episodes over the next 12 years (potentially 25 – 50 million accumulative listeners). The Single Most influential person at bringing the subject of Giants, Nephilim, & fringe conspiracies of their skeletons back into the modern sub-cultural awareness in the 21st century– & More or less putting giants back on the map.
  • 2002-2009 Ancient Lost Treasures forum, online. Info, and compilations of giant accounts, NY Times WA post. Moderator, White Eagle.
  • 2002- Giants and Little people, tribal convention at Frank’s Landing, WA. State, Vine Deloria Jr and other Native elders discus giants & little people.
  • 2002+ Mary Sutherland’s website burlingtonnews.net, giants, paranomral and other topics.
  • 2002, Mysterious Creatures: A Guide to Cryptozoology, by George M. Eberhart. Lists giant skeletal finds
  • 2003+ bibliotecapleyades.net/gigantes/hiddenproofsgiantrace.html Lists of Giant finds
  • 2003+Chris Parker’s S8int.com – Creationism, giant skeleton reports etc.
  • 2003+ Mysterious World website: Doug Elwell Giants etc.
  • 2004-to Present, Fritz Zimmerman’s hallmark work “Nephilim Chronicles” pub. 2010, & accompanying travel guide. His work Started out at Moundbuilder. org from 2004-2007.Compiled 300+ giant skeleton accounts.
  • 2004 – Jonathan Gray, “Lost world of Giants”
  • 2004 Patrick Heron, Nephilim & Pyramid of Apocalypse
  • 2007 to present, Dale Drinnon’s Frontiers of Anthropology blog, giants, ancient civilizations, and other blogs on cryptids etc.
  • 2009-2015+ M.J. Ewers/ J. Strouse/ Rephaim23 blog & Micah E Giantology Facebook page. Research consultant, assisted Jim Vieria, Chris Lesley and a dozen other independent researchers in compiling approx. 1,500+ newspaper & journal accounts relating to giants.
  • 2010+ Terje Dahl, Giant researcher and one of the first to propose Denisovan theory in America.
  • 2010+ Brad Lockwood: “On Giants,” research in up-State NY giants, & critical commentary on giants.
  • 2010,  Mark Hall & Loren Coleman: TRUE GIANTS: Is Gigantopithecus Still Alive?
  • 2010+ Scott Reaney of Clive, Alberta: Chronoligies book of giants, compiles 546 newspaper reports of giants.(possibly up to 2,000 accounts)
  • 2010 to present Chris Lesley, Greater Ancestors world museum, lists of several hundred giant skeleton finds by state & nation. Greaterancestors.com.
  • 2011 Genes, Giants, Monsters, and Man – Joseph P Farrell
  • 2012-15 Jim Vieira + Bill Vieira, & Hugh Newman: Stonebuilders, mounds builders & Giants Facebook page. Jim’s TedEX talk, & Search For The Lost Giants TV show, History Channel–They compile approx. 1,500 accounts. See: Cecelia Hall’s 2013 google earth giant skeleton map project.
  • 2012-2013- Missing 411 Series, David Paulides.His other works: Tribal Bigfoot 2009, Hoopa Project 2008.
  • 2012 – Michael Heiser, The Façade (The Façade Saga) (Volume 1) and his website, and critical commentary on giants & ancient alien theories.
  • 2013 Joe Taylor, “Giants against evolution” compiles scores of giant accounts and stories.
  • 2013 – Melba Ketchum’s paper, “Novel North American Hominins, Next Generation Sequencing of Three Whole Genomes and Associated Studies”
  • 2013 Nephilim Stargates: The Year 2012 and the Return of the Watchers by Thomas Horn
  • 2013 – Richard J Dewhurst’s: The Ancient Giants Who Ruled America: The Missing Skeletons and the Great Smithsonian Cover-Up – very large and encompassing book, very popular – has several hundred accounts of giants.
  • 2013 Micah Hanks articles on giants & Smithsonian, & commentary.
  • 2013-2014 L.A. Marzulli, On the trail of The Nephilim Volumes 1 & 2,& watchers series
  • 2013- The Enigma of Cranial Deformation: Elongated Skulls of the Ancients, David Childress & Brien Foerster.
  • 2013 Kristan Harris, Rundown Live, Giants in Wisconsin & research
  • 2013 -Lost Race of the Giants by Patrick Chouinard
  • 2013, True Legends, Giants, Bigfoot, Nephilim, Anakim, Anunnaki by Steve Quayle
  • 2013-2015, Greg little, Andrew Colins: “Path of Souls”, compiles reports of giants in the Archaeological literature from mounds in USA.
  • 2013-present Sharon Day – ghosthuntingtheories.com, blog on Giants, bigfoot commentary and research.
  • 2013-Present, Bernhard Beier www.atlantisforschung.de, Giants & Atlantis. Lists of giant skeleton reports.
  • Jason Jarell, Sarah Farmer , April Holloway. Ancient-origins.net/searchall/giants
  • 2014- Bruce Fenton, Science Channel’s Unexplained Files: Giants in Georgia
  • 2014-15 – Andrew White Anthropology blog- Giants, double teeth, etc. &critical commentary.
  • 2010+ (2012-2015 especially) Jason Colavito’s blog, critical commentary on giants, ancient aliens, alternative archaeology, and the fantastic.
  • 2014+ Ark & Neo, Digging for the Truth & Facebook page: Old Newspaper stories, reports of giant skeletons, cryptids and other strange phenomena.
  • 2015, Genesis 6 Giants, vol. 2, by Steve Quayle.
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Indian Mounds, 7 foot skeletons, horns & extra teeth — Nephilim Giants, or Shamans?

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Skeleton from Ross, Co. Ohio — 5 ft 11 in long. “The mound builders their works and relics”, Stephen Denison Peet, 1903 pg 79.

  • Skulls with horns, Extra teeth and other Cranial anomalies

The Adena and other Woodland Indians who built mounds from Illinois down to Georgia, often buried their top medicine man, chief or shaman at the center or bottom of the mound. Sometimes his servants or wives would be sacrificed and buried along side him, and sprinkled with red ochre and other burial goods, beads, copper axes, or other such funerary items. Some of the death masks, and headdresses these guys wore had deer antlers, or copper protuberances or “horns.” (See this fascinating article on Deb Twigg’s excellent webpage “Spanish Hill” on the real story behind the “horned” giants found in Athens, Pennsylvania in 1916, and other tall skeletons: Giant Skeletons )

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Spiro Mound horned mask.

Hopewell Shaman with antlers.

Hopewell Shaman with antlers.

Other shamans wore canine and ursine false teeth inserted into their mouths. Perhaps this is one explanation for the common stories of double rows of teeth found in some of the mound skeletons in the 19th century?

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5a.24 Adena Ceremony – Ohio Historical Society

Adena skull with cranial deformation, and wolf tooth inserts.

Adena skull with cranial deformation, and removable wolf tooth inserts.

Dental anomalies, crowded, and even supernumerary teeth, were also documented  in some Adena elites in addition to Cranial deformation, and other body modifications at several Adena mounds. Extra teeth in the jaw may well be the most straightforward explanation for some of the newspaper and 19th century accounts describing double sets of teeth. Some examples of supernumerary teeth from Adena mounds:

A female skeleton (burial #54)  with a supernumerary tooth and retention of a baby tooth was found at the  Dover Mound, Kentucky and in Franklin county, Ohio two  skeletons next to each other, burial # 8 and # 11, at the Sidner Mound 1, both had a supernumerary tooth.

At the nearby McMurray Mound 1, also in Franklin County, Ohio, an individual (#14) had a supernumerary tooth as well. These dental anomalies, including supernumerary, or extra teeth, are considered to be a genetic trait, and “their occurrences may be a means to establish biological relationships between the mound populations” – See references below:

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Dover Mound Page 43 – “supernumerary tooth” and other dental anomalies present in one tall woman’s skeleton.

  • But Were they Giants?

We know from Webb, Snow & Dragoo in their excavations at Adena mounds in 1950 to 1959 that in at least two mounds, taller than average persons were buried, even identified as shamans– men 6 feet tall, and some times a 7 foot man buried in the center of the mound, perhaps the central figure behind the mound’s very construction. (See Dragoo’s photo of the Cresap mound burial 54, and Webb & Snow’s notes on Dover mound burial 40).

Dover Mound

Dover Mound

Dover Mound in 1949 before excavation

Dover Mound in 1949 before excavation

The Dover Mound - Page 22. William Snyder Webb, Charles Ernest Snow - 1959

The Dover Mound – Page 22. William Snyder Webb, Charles Ernest Snow – 1959

New World Antiquity, Volume 6, 1959 pg 139 B

New World Antiquity, Volume 6, 1959 pg 139 B

New World Antiquity, Volume 6, 1959 pg 139

New World Antiquity, Volume 6, 1959 pg 139

The most interesting prestige burial from The Dover Mound: A bark tomb in the center bottom of the mound (burials 40 to 43) held 4 skeletons; 3  of  them 25-30 year old men, and 1 skeleton of a 13 yr old girl. A 7 foot man (#40) an approx. 6 ft man (his femur was 19.25 inches, #41) a large cranially deformed  man with wide cheeks and a hooked nose # 42, and the skeleton of a 13 to 15 yr old girl 5’3″ inches tall buried with some beads.

Dover Mound pg 22

Dover Mound pg 22

  • Evidence of human Sacrifice at Dover Mound
Dover burial 42

Dover Mound pg 39 “Hooked nose” skull, burial 42.

These four burials were covered with red ochre and then set ablaze, but the cremation only smoked most of the bones, and didn’t destroy them entirely. I wonder if the 7 foot man was the chief, and the two other men his bodyguards or shamans, and the girl perhaps a princess, or wife possibly sacrificed to accompany her husband into the afterlife?

Another burial, # 9 was of a “rugged” male 5 ft 6 inches tall and 35 to 40 years old whose skull was encased with the jaws of a mountain lion, and he wore an elaborate cloak of mica and leather, made to impersonate a “great cat”,  he wore copper bracelets on his wrist, and was buried with red ocher and other pigments. This shaman, or “Panther man” was found with the skeleton of a female about 20 years old on top of his own skeleton– Webb & Snow speculate that this young lady was the Shaman’s daughter, or “magician’s assistant,” and was sacrificed, “willingly or not” to accompany him “into the world of spirits.” ( See pages 17-20, Dover mound) More information of the 55 burials:

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  • The Cresap Adena Mound Giant, 7 feet 2 inches tall.

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Mounds For the Dead. [Note: 5 ft scale]

Dr. Don Dragoo of the Carnegie Museum describes the impressive size of the Cresap WV. mound burial # 54:

Mounds for the dead an analysis of the adena culture - Page 72 Don W. Dragoo Carnegie Museum, Carnegie Museum of Natural History

Mounds for the dead an analysis of the adena culture – Page 72 Don W. Dragoo Carnegie Museum, Carnegie Museum of Natural History.

Annals of the Carnegie Museum - Volume 33 - Page 249 Carnegie Museum, Carnegie Museum of Natural History - 1961

Annals of the Carnegie Museum – Volume 33 – Page 249 Carnegie Museum, Carnegie Museum of Natural History – 1961

On page 50, plate 21 of Dr. Dragoo’s “Mounds for the Dead” is a photograph of the burial # 54,  — the 7.2 feet tall individual:

Cresap mound skeleton

Mounds for the dead an analysis of the adena culture – Page 50 plate 21. Don W. Dragoo Carnegie Museum, Carnegie Museum of Natural History. [Note trowel for scale]

Dr. Dragoo placed a trowel in the rib section of the partially cremated but intact skeleton. Although not as ideal as a tape measure, this was standard practice in the 20th century, and can give us a fair estimate of the size of the skeleton. Also an approx. 5 to 5-1/2 inch small flaked knife was one of the burial goods situated between the knees of the skeleton. This places the trowelblade at about 5 inches long, consistent with the most common size of Marshalltown trowels –commonly used by most American archaeologists in the 20th century.

Using these objects as a reference I computed the skeleton to be from 6 ft 10 to 7 ft 2 inches tall in the flesh; the femurs approx. 22 to 23 inches long, the pelvis 14-1/2 inches wide, and the length of torso, approx. 42 inches long from skull to tail bone –or sitting height– which is about 50% of total stature in most individuals. This more or less confirms Dragoo’s initial measurement of an individual approximately 7.2 feet tall in life, by my estimates.

  • The Greater Significance

These large skeletons of seemingly “paramount” or “important” individuals buried in the deepest stratum of the mounds, excavated in the 1950’s tend to support some of the early claims of field agents in the Smithsonian’s bureau of ethnology who occasionally reported skeletons of similar size in some of the largest mounds in the Ohio Valley, West Virginia, and South East — Skeletons ranging from about 7 to 8 feet in length. Here are several such examples from official Smithsonian reports of the late 1800’s:

Tweflth Annual Report of the Bureau of American Ethnology to the Secretary of the Smithsonian Institution - J.W. Powell - 1894 pg. 362482762_619475094734657_953584937_nTweflth Annual Report of the Bureau of American Ethnology to the Secretary of the Smithsonian Institution - J.W. Powell - 1894 pg. 335Tweflth Annual Report of the Bureau of American Ethnology to the Secretary of the Smithsonian Institution - J.W. Powell - 1894 pg. 426Tweflth Annual Report of the Bureau of American Ethnology to the Secretary of the Smithsonian Institution - J.W. Powell - 1894 pg. 113Tweflth Annual Report of the Bureau of American Ethnology to the Secretary of the Smithsonian Institution - J.W. Powell - 1894 pg. 117Tweflth Annual Report of the Bureau of American Ethnology to the Secretary of the Smithsonian Institution - J.W. Powell - 1894 pg. 419Fifth Annual Report of The Bureau of Ethnology to The Secretary of the Smithsonian Institution - J.W. Powell -1887. pg 35Annual Report of the Board of Regents of the Smithsonian Institution...1875 pg. 392

-References and further reading:

For more references, check out Jim Vieira’s facebook page: Stone Builders, Mound Builders, and the Giants of Ancient America

And Micah Hanks great articles: Big Buried Secrets, Giants Skeletons and the Smithsonian

7-20-14 Giant Skeletons in myth and history on Coast to Coast

Passing “The Wadlow Test”: Questions and Criticisms of Giant Conspiracies

Also, a must read is Ross Hamilton’s book, A TRADITION OF GIANTS The Elite Social Hierarchy of American Prehistory

Greg Little & Andrew Collins also recently contributed some fascinating research into the Mound reports of tall skeletons in his new book: Path of Souls: The Native American Death Journey; Cygnus, Orion, the Milky Way, Giant Skeletons in Mounds, & the Smithsonian.  and articles:

The truth about giant skeletons in American Indian mounds, and the Smithsonian cover-up

Giant Predecessors in America? New Evidence of a Giant-Sized Coverup By Gregory Little, Ed.D.

Denisovans and the American Giant Mystery

Jason Jarrell and Sarah Farmer have also written a fascinating 2 part article on Giants:

The Establishment Has Already Acknowledged A Lost Race of Giants – Part 1

The Establishment Has Already Acknowledged a Lost Race of Giants – Part 2

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Patagonian Giants, the Ona Tribe. Dr Frederick Cook’s photos, and notes: 7 foot giants.

Dr Frederick Cook, the controversial explorer and physician made some interesting claims of having encountered “giants” among the “Ona” people of Patagonia during his “Belgica” expedition in 1896-97. His photographs and notes which I recently discovered in online publications, I feel,  might offer some explanation to the endless stories of giants in that part of the world — that actual tribes averaging six feet tall for men, with some individuals 6-1/2 and even 7-1/2 feet tall–indeed existed.

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Endless tales, eye witness descriptions, and legends of Giant Indians encounters were common from the 1500’s into the 1800’s in Patagonia, here are some of the many reports from that era: http://www.sydhav.no/giants/patagonia.htm

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Amerikaner Leipzig 1796

Stories of 7 to 12 foot tall Patagonian giants had been circulating for 500 years. They were commonly accepted, and portrayed on maps, and in atlases and books of the day. Amerikaner Leipzig 1796.

Back in January, 2015 I stumbled upon old photos in a newspaper from 1899 showing how tall some of the Patagonian Ona tribesmen were. I sent the image to the “Search For the Lost Giants” Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/searchforthelostgiants/posts/1581147855453814 The photo of what appeared to be two nearly 7 foot tall Ona Indians, next to one of the ship-mates from the Belgica expedition, raised immense curiosity in my mind! (Incidentally, Dr Cook and most of his ship-mates were from 5 ft 8 in. to 6 ft tall: https://books.google.com/books?id=O9IBAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA260)

The Virginia enterprise. (Virginia, St. Louis County, Minn.) September 29, 1899, Image 3

The Virginia enterprise. (Virginia, St. Louis County, Minn.) September 29, 1899, Image 3

I later found a February 1938 interview in “Popular Photography” Magazine, with Dr. Frederick Cook, and in this interview he claimed the Ona tribe he met in 1897 were from “6 to 7-1/2 feet tall” , wore animal skins, had “horse endurance” and “Bull’s strength” and lived in simple wigwam huts made of tree branches.

Onas Indians Dr Cook

“Popular Photography” Feb. 1938. Full PDF: www.vliz.be/imisdocs/publications/258491.pdf

Ona Indian woman 6 ft 6 Dr Cook

Ona Indian woman 6 ft 6, 1897 photo by Dr. Cook – Popular Photography, Feb. 1938

One of the amazing photographs he took featured a man 7 feet 2 inches tall, and another of a woman 6 feet 6 inches in height.

Ona man 7 ft 2, Dr Cook

Ona man 7 ft 2, Dr Cook – Popular Photography, Feb. 1938.

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The Library of Congress Lists the same man photographed by Dr. Cook, as 7 ft 4: http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2005691865/ Title: Ona man, 7 ft. 4 in., standing Date Created/Published: [1897 or 1898]

The people Dr. Cook photographed in 1897 were the Onas, or Selknam nation, a nearly extinct people http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selknam_people who were mercilessly pushed off the land, and massacred by new coming settlers in the 19th century. The tall, and impressively built Selknam, averaging somewhere around 5 ft 10 to 6 feet for most males, they wore long fur pelts, lived in stick huts, and carried bows and arrows — these were ultimate survivors, and among the most primitive tribes in all of the Americas. So “primitive” were the Fuegians and Patagonian tribes, that Charles Darwin himself had some surprisingly harsh, indeed hatefully inspired words to describe these peoples. “Wild men”, “Cannibals”, “absolutely naked”, the most “miserable state of barbarism” & etc., I shall not repeat what Darwin had to say in entirety, as you can read his endless prejudice comments here for yourself: http://www.corpussomnium.org/darwins-descriptions-of-the-fuegians-and-patagonians/

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Fuegian, 1840 – Tierra Del Fuego, Chile.

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Selknam / Ona people.

So “wild”, and intimidating a people to the early Europeans, could the fabled stories of giants, or even wild hairy men, nay even Bigfoot lore, be in part, based upon such encounters with these strange, but terribly misunderstood, and now exterminated indigenous tribes? I tend to think, that is the simplest explanation, and the most likely.  We have some legends among Indigenous persons in North America, regarding the cannibal red “headed giants”, and historical accounts of the tall and powerful Karankawa, also alleged cannibals, I think these fierce and powerful types may have left a lasting impression on neighboring tribes, and later European colonists — that they became the “bogey men”, and wild giants — the stuff of fairy tales. We need to remember, the average height of the Spanish, English, and early Navigators of the 16th to 18th century was about 5 feet 5 or 5 ft 6 inches tall, and that was almost a head shorter than the “Tehuelche” tribe of Patagonia, who averaged about 6 feet for men, and some even 6 feet 6. (See Documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ehIfTIdfXs) And now, with the revelation of Dr. Frederick Cook’s notes, there is yet more evidence of some individuals up to 7 ft 4 among the Selknam, Ona tribe, existing right up into the turn of the century. Evidence of Giants? You decide!

Patagonian and Fuegan 1871 Wood engraving

Patagonian and Fuegan 1871 Wood engraving.

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